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The Interview by Katherine
Araniello
Katherine Araniello (the interviewee) played by herself
Lucy Fresh (the interviewer) played by Julie Monin
Script:
Lucy:(Lucy giggles). Hi good morning Katherine
Katherine: Hi
Lucy: I’m Lucy Fresh
Katherine: Oh I thought Sarah Kent from the Time Out
was coming to interview me.
Lucy: Yeah I’m afraid Lucy…eh… Sarah
couldn’t come, she was very busy and she just couldn’t make
it…sorry… I’m an intern in the Time Out and well you
know it’s not really my dream career I must say… I would rather
work for Heat magazine or you know… this kind of things…but
my father knew someone at Time Out so he just pushed me… you know
how it works.
Lucy: But umm, so umm, since when did you become an artist?
Katherine: Umm, well I’ve always been interested
in art. Prior to me getting my BA at London Guildhall University 1999
I graduated and then I received my MA last year 2004 at Goldsmiths College
and prior to that I‘ve always been involved in art, and one of the
things I was known for was both a friend of mine Sean Donaghey, umm, we
set up an art duo called Plastic Anorexic and…
Lucy: (laughs) That’s funny
Katherine: and we used to sing all over England umm,
and sung about the Queen and we also performed at the ICA.
Lucy: Alright…great. Umm Do you think your art
helps you overcome your disability?
Katherine: Umm… what do you mean by that?
Lucy: Umm…I mean umm…Do you use your art
as a kind of therapy maybe?
Katherine: Umm, No no.
Lucy: No?
Katherine: Did you write these questions?
Lucy: Uh, yes I did, I must say I didn’t really
have time I just wrote it on the train
Katherine: Maybe we can move on to the next…
Lucy: Allright yeah, so umm, do you receive money from
special disabled charities to help you with your work?
Katherine: Umm, no, I do what every other artist has
to do, I have to fill in application forms, write a proposal, fill in
statements etc. and sometimes I’m successful and other times I’m
not. A few years ago, I was awarded some funding from the Arts Council
of England and with that money I made a film called ‘Amplify’,
which was set in an Italian restaurant and that piece of work was all
about, umm you know, presenting an ordinary everyday scenario of some
people...
Lucy: oh, that’s interesting (laughing), I’m
afraid we don’t have a lot of time so we’re gonna watch an
extract from one of your video, It’s a pop video, and it’s
called ‘I like that’, let’s watch it…
(Soundtrack from pop video: electronic music) ‘That get’s
my heart pumping, that get’s my heart pumping’…
Lucy: What a cute little dog in your video, is it your
dog?
Katherine: Yes it is… often artists..
Lucy: Oh, nice
Katherine:..use things that are accessible to them…
Lucy: uh, hugh
Katherine: close at hand, he’s sixteen
Lucy: Oh, sixteen years old
Katherine: Yes
Lucy: It’s quite old for a dog, isn’t it?
Katherine: Yes, he’s doing well for his age
Lucy: All right, umm, so, I must admit I really didn’t
expect your work to be so good,
Katherine: Oh, thank you
Lucy: Yeah, it’s all really…clever, isn’t
it?
Katherine: Yes, well it’s technically advanced
a lot of films that I make I very much use a huge amount of manipulation
I’m very much into cutting, pasting, adding effects and stuff like
that and with the pop video I made the soundtrack for it and I also had
two camera persons which I directed, you know, they basically operated
the camera specifically to my directions, which was great, so I got the
angles that I wanted and then I edited it all on the computer and that’s..
Lucy: Oh, great, so you really made the work yourself?
Katherine: Yes, it’s amazing how you can actually
produce a pop video on a very low budget and create all these effects
without spending vast amounts of money, I mean it’s possible if
you have the creativity and the ability and you sort of think you know
the process to do it.
Lucy: That’s great, so umm, I saw in your video
you present yourself as a pop star, do you dream of being the next Madonna?
Katherine: No. I’m not sure whether that’s
a compliment, no, I’m an artist, I don’t aspire to be a pop
artist, I just made the pop video because within the music industry if
I was really wanting to become a pop artist then it’s unlikely that
I would be accepted because of body aesthetics and so because I am an
artist I just thought it would be a one off, it’s something fun
to do and it’s …
Lucy: I see
Katherine: … something that I’ve never seen,
and I loosely based my character on Leigh Bowery because he was…
Lucy: who?
Katherine: … such an outrageous artist at the time,
he was Australian and he just used to wear these outrageous costumes and
he would appear and he was very much part of the night scene in London..
Lucy: Who did you say it was, sorry?
Katherine: Leigh Bowery
Lucy: All right, I see, so do you think MTV should have
a special category for disabled pop stars?
Katherine: Umm, I think if a person is skilled and has
what it takes to become a solo artist or part of a boy band or girl band
or whatever then,
Lucy: You mean the X factor?
Katherine: Yeah, the X factor true yeah, I think if they
have whatever it takes for that package, I think they should definitely
go for it, but unfortunately what the package does seem to also want is
the perfect body and to be honest I think if we were just to see more
people out there in boy bands or girl bands who were maybe had a physical
disability or whatever, then I think it would be fine, I think that the
more you see, the more it becomes just you know normal.
Lucy: I see, talking about success, I see that you won the Wardens purchase
prize…
Katherine: yes
Lucy: at Goldsmiths College, that’s really fine
– congratulations
Katherine: thank you
Lucy: it’s really great so, umm, do you think the
fact that you are disabled helped you in a way…winning this prize?
Katherine: Umm, what do you mean by that?
Lucy: Umm, I mean do you think the jury was influenced
positively because you are a disabled person maybe?
Katherine: Umm, no, the reason why I won the Wardens
purchase prize and was paid £500 for my work to be part of their
archive is because basically what they do is they select the work which
is part of the MA end of year show and they basically make their selection
on the basis of technical merit, so because the pop video had so many
sort of things going on in it and it was very sort of technically advanced
and all these effects going on etc., etc., that’s why I won it.
Had I made a documentary and the camera was quite static…
Lucy: Yeah, sorry but do you think that able-bodied audiences
umm, will ever be interested in disabled art?
Katherine: Umm, I think an audience, an art audience
would be interested in art if it’s good art and hopefully they’re
not prejudiced to the point where they only able to select or appreciate
art that is you know based upon somebody’s physical agility, I mean
hopefully, I would imagine it does actually go just a little bit more
beyond that.
Lucy: Yes, hopefully. Then umm, but is it difficult to
find galleries for disabled people?
Katherine: Umm, it’s difficult to find galleries
that are all wheelchair or all accessible to disabled people, I don’t
quite know what you mean by galleries for disabled people?
Lucy: I mean umm galleries which show some work like
yours or made by disabled artists.
Katherine: Well, I think what you have to try to understand,
umm, Lucy, is that the work that I make, is very much you know contemporary
and in line with what other artists without disabilities are making. I
mean the work that I make is intrusive to me it’s about, you know,
how I live, it’s about what’s important to me and the concerns
that I have, and obviously, you know, because I am a disabled woman I
chosen to use aspects of that to incorporate in my work but certainly
not homing in on the impairment it’s more about the social issues
that surround that.
Lucy: Yes off course but do you think that disabled artists
should talk more about their medical condition so that people would understand
a bit better what their work is about?
Katherine: No, I’m not sure whether you are really
understanding much of what I am saying, I mean I think that unwittingly
you are stereotyping me,
Lucy: I’m sorry,
Katherine: I mean it’s like if I said to you, because
of the way you look, and what you’re wearing today I might say to
you, you know, do you take the contraceptive pill?
Lucy: Well, actually I don’t but we’re gonna
watch another extract from your latest work, it’s called umm ‘staircase
miracle’, and, ok, so let’s watch it
Audio Describer Voice Over:
A young woman wheelchair user was pushed by another woman, the nun walks
slowly determinedly onwards her image superimposed over the wheelchair
users, there were dry leaves on the path and the trees branches are bare
against the bleak sky. The girl in the wheelchair reaches out to touch
the power chair user as she passes. The num walks on hands clasped. The
power chair user, a young woman with short legs looks across at us. A
blind woman using a cane being guided by another woman walks along the
path passing the girl wheelchair user.
Lucy: So Katherine,
do you believe in miracles?
Katherine: No.
Lucy: No you’re not a religious person at all?
Katherine: I’m not religious, This is the latest
piece of work that I have been involved with. It’s actually a collaborative
piece by 15mm films and it is using religion as a subtext but it’s
really subverting the religion and unfortunately generically I think most
people believe that disabled people ultimately would like to find a cure
and be able to walk etc, and what this film does in a humorous and subversive
way is to sort of overthrows that notion and you know I enjoy being in
the film because we all wrote our own individual cameo parts ..
Lucy: Yes I saw that…
Katherine: I am Jesus and I actually end up shooting
everybody and the pilgrims and killing them so that was good fun.
Lucy: Alright, I saw that there are lots of real disabled
people in your film so was it difficult to find able bodied people to
play or was it just cheaper to hire disabled actors?
Katherine: The people in the film are the people that
were chosen because they were appropriate so we had some disabled actors
and we had some non disabled actors and the prices that we paid for our
actors are all based upon their individual skills so you obviously don’t
get cheaper, I can’t believe you are asking me this question and
I am answering it…
Lucy: Sorry, I thought…
Katherine: It’s a very, it’s a really strange,
very very strange question,
Lucy: Er I just want people to understand it, you know,
Katherine: Yeah, but…
Lucy: Alright…so…
Katherine: It’s unbelievable..unbelievable
Lucy: Sorry, er we’re gonna watch an extract from
Jennifer, umm it’s one of your previous work, and I must say it’s
really my favourite work, it’s really nice one, yeah, so lets watch
it…
Soundtrack:
Jennifer, Juniper longs for what she lacks, do you like her, yes I do
Sir, and would you love her, if I could Sir, what you doing Jennifer my
love? Jennifer, Juniper aah ah aah what you doing Jennifer my love? Whatcha
doing Jennifer my love?
Lucy: That young actress is really cute, isn't she the one that’s
playing in Quentin Tarantino movie?
Katherine: Um no no,
Lucy: No she’s not…
Katherine: No she’s not, she’s just a very
good friend of mine, and she’s not had any previous acting and she’s
just a good friend of mine and her skill lays in the fact that she was
able to listen to my directions very carefully in order for me to be able
to you know, produce the character that you see in the film.
Lucy: Alright, but she’s very pretty, maybe she
should have thought about working in Hollywood or something..
Katherine: Yeah maybe she’ll get offers after people
see the film..
Lucy: Yeah let’s hope so. Er um so, do you hope
that one day science will find a cure for people like you to walk and
lead a normal life?
Katherine: No.
Lucy: No you don’t think so? So you don’t
have hope?
(LOUD GUNSHOT)
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